This interview is something very different to what I usually write about and I expect some of you won't like it, but I want you to read this first before you make any sort of judgement. I want to introduce you to two female comedians from New York who are changing people's perspectives on the way we think about sex. Krystyna Hutchinson (in the photo below she is on the left) and Corrine Fisher (right) are doing something pretty unique. They are talking about their sexual experiences one guy (or girl) at a time, then recording a podcast which is released onto the internet for everyone to hear, and I meant EVERYONE. The podcast is named Guys we F***ed so you can imagine it's pretty racy stuff and is very explicit. Something perhaps not to listen with your grandma, (or maybe you should, these girls want us to have no shame, right?) I have warned you, so don't listen if you're easily offended as they go into every detail possible. However they are hilarious and they make some interesting points about sexuality. I spoke to the girls about everything from Emma Watson's UN speech to female comedians, Beyonce and of course sex.
What made you want to start the podcast?
C: I mean, do you just want the guy's name? As many artistic endeavors do, this started from a pretty dark place. The guy I thought I was going to spend the rest of my life with dumped me in a Panera bread and I lost my shit. I thought if I could go back and talk to every guy I had ever dated or slept with, I could find out what I was doing wrong. How very High Fidelity of me, right? I quickly realized I wasn't doing anything wrong and that this concept was much bigger than its selfish, pathetic beginnings. But, the main goal was to use comedy to heal myself. And it certainly did. This podcast has truly been my salvation. Some people find Jesus, I found Krystyna Hutchinson and some microphones.
K: When Corinne talked to me about the idea, I was immediately on board. I have my own hangups with my sexuality and the only logical way, in my mind, to rid myself of those hangups is to talk about them at a level of honesty that's uncomfortable for most. Also, adding humor to sex talk is key. Its one of the few things all humans have in common and we all feel equally weird/awkward/nervous about it at times. Also, so many people carry a sense of shame about their sexuality. Shame is made-up by a culture of people. It's not real, it's programmed in your head over your lifetime. That's why Corinne and I make a point to be 100% honest about what we say on the podcast, even if we're embarrassed, because we want to spread the word that it's ok to make mistakes. As long as your comfortable and safe with what you're doing... do away!
A massive congratulations is in order after reaching half a million listeners! Does it not worry you that so many people are hearing about your sexual experiences?
C: Nope! This podcast is like my diary. You're saying things that are intimate, but that, deep down, you really want people to know about you. I don't really have any secrets, I find them suffocating. We're all fuck-ups. I say let's bask in it together.
K: When the podcast first got popular and we started to get some press, I had a mini panic attack because I realized that our sexual laundry is being aired for the entire world to hear. Once we started getting emails from our listeners telling us how much more comfortable we've made them feel about their own sexuality, that panic melted away. To be able to make people laugh AND feel better about whatever's going on in their life, goes beyond what I've hoped for with this show.
Who's been your favourite guest on your show so far?
C: Probably Jim Norton because I unexpectedly met my soulmate that day. He still doesn't know, though.
K: We recently had on a woman on named Veronica who was very candid (and hilarious) about her experience as a stripper in a high end club and having a sugar daddy pay her rent for a few years. I love talking to people from different walks of life and that woman can tell a story. I was crying-laughing for the majority of the episode.
As I'm sure you're aware Emma Watson made a pretty incredible speech about gender equality at the UN conference this week. How do you feel about this and do you have any experiences where you've been discriminated because of your gender?
C: In keeping with our podcast's theme of being completely honest, no matter how 'embarrassing', I did not watch this speech. And, keeping with this theme of honesty, I probably still won't even after kind of feeling like a dumbass for a few seconds just now. This is a huge movement and I know Emma Watson is doing her part, I don't need to witness it. I'm busy doing my part. And also listening to Katy Perry and eating gummy bears. What I'm trying to say is I'm very busy. Busy SANS boyfriend which I know is a shocker to many.
K: I loved Emma's speech and completely agree with the notion that we need men on our side in order to make any progress with equal rights. Whenever any repressed group is fighting for equality, it takes the group of people at the opposite end of the spectrum to join in on the cause in order to get results. There are plenty of times I've been discriminated against but I try not to keep those experiences handy, otherwise I'd go nuts. The only one that really sticks out is when I was a little kid and my dad wouldn't allow me to do the things he allowed my brother to do at my age. I was always so frustrated by this and asked him flat out one day if it's because I'm a girl and he said yes and I've been pissed ever since (JK, love you Dad!!).
Why do you think people are so afraid to say that they're a feminist and would you both classify yourself as one?
C: Probably because it makes them think of a lot of armpit hair. I refer to myself as a 'MODERN feminist' and what that means to me is based on what the Spice Girls used to say...like, I can wear hot pants and still fight for my rights as a female.
K: Because they think it means that you hate men which is entirely false. Corinne and I are feminists and we CERTAINLY don't hate men. I mean, we have a podcast dedicated to talking with the men that have been a part of our lives at some point.
In the UK there are very few well known female comedians. Why do you think the industry struggles to appeal & connect to females involved in the industry?
C: I think a huge part of comedy is about being super open, and, for the most part, women have been forced to hide shit about themselves for so long that it's just gonna take an extra beat to let our freak flags fly, ya know? We're jetting forward at an amazing pace, though.
K: I'm not sure that the industry struggles with that so much. There are a ton of female comedians that are killing it right now that connect to both genders.
Who do you look up to as inspiration?
C: I look in the mirror and I'm like, "Gross, you can be better." Then I go out and try to suck less than I did the day before. I'm a delight.
K: My mom, Catherine O'Hara, and Sarah Silverman.
On the podcast you spoke about the powerful relationship between Beyoncé and Jay Z, which caused a bit of a negative reaction from your listeners. Why do you think that was & what was the point you were trying to make?
C: This is pretty much directed at me. The BeyHive can send me all the threatening Tweets they want, but I pride myself in being a pretty good people reader and there is something very strange about the Jay-Z/Beyonce dynamic (which, btw, a lot of listeners saw as well). All I can say is watch those interview portions of the Beyonce "Life Is But A Dream" documentary again and if you don't find some of that shit mildly alarming...I cannot help you. The conversation I started about Beyonce was meant in no way to take away from the fact that she is a ridiculously gifted performer, that's undeniable. But, unfortunately, I tried to have an intelligent conversation, and, instead was greeted with blind defensiveness which I have absolutely no respect or tolerance for and it left an even worse taste in my mouth than I had initially.
K: I love Beyonce always and forever and am I die hard fan of hers. Whenever anyone criticizes her, I usually put ear muffs on. I've had my fair share of arguing over my take on Beyonce's influence and overall magic and I've realized that I don't care to change anyone's mind. If you don't see it or if you're focusing on an area of her private life that you likely know nothing about, you're missing the point and I can't help ya.
Sex is still such a taboo subject, however we all want to hear about it out of natural curiosity hence the reason you have half a million subscribers. Do you think that your podcasts have helped people become more open about their sex life, as you open up in such huge detail about yours?
C: Sure! I think the podcast has helped start a larger conversation between friends, spouses, mates and fuck buddies, but we're just a small part of a much larger (and super exciting) sexual movement.
K: I do! And the proof lies within all the emails we get form listeners around the world every day. They share their experiences and it opens up a dialogue that they maybe haven't had before. It makes me so happy when people email us, we read every one and try to respond when we can! (sorryaboutlastnightshow@
So what's next for the both of you?
C: Tacos, probably.
K: Some really cool things are in the works. Keep an eye out!
You can listen to their podcasts here: